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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

Manu,

I dissent.

Ab initio I've read stories on Telegram where people felt bad side-effects after having been in the company of recently injected people.

And pfizer has admitted in its official doc that the vaccinated DO transmit. Now, whenever a product maker obliquely admits to an unfavourable outcome or side-effect of its product, I listen! No business wants any adverse slight on its products!

"They" are not pimping about any transmission by the vaccinated - it is the opposite. They are pimping the convid and their poisons.

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manu's avatar

I believe that excluding out other causes except the spike protein is a mistake.

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

It is a matter of deduction. If something has not occurred and now occurs with the introduction of a risky X, it follows that X must objectively be studied to exclude it from being the causal factor.

Since all parts of the body are interconnected, it is possible that X might not be the direct cause of a new or existing disease, it can be an indirect causal factor.

MD Ryan Cole courageously pointed explained how the vaccines caused the increase in cancers which he has clinically observed, including the reactivation of dormant ones due to the weakened immune system.

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manu's avatar

He ignores that lipid nanoparticles can cause and enhance the spread of cancer. You got to ask why they focus so much on the spike protein! From what is it distracting?

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

the spike protein uses LNPs as their vehicles. of course, introducing any foreign particles into the body is unsafe. They are "foreign" for a reason.

Have you heard of any claim that the faccines can be removed? Aussie Madeleine Love claimed that some quacks in Qld removed the faccine from a woman who has developed brain tumours. And the tumours receded post removal and her sister was off to Qld to do the same.

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manu's avatar

What explanation/proof of this mechanism do we have?

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

1. Always, always, apply the prudence principle to anything new and man-made and pimped out by them.

2. Following from 1 above, it is for the makers and pushers to conclusively prove that they do not transmit.

3. I recall having seen studies on this matter. Here is the latest one:

https://palexander.substack.com/p/did-hassanpour-et-al-show-us-detail,

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Sounds Like Nonsense's avatar

CARLO BROGNA WASTEWATER

https://twitter.com/carlobrogna1/status/1693708879161344297

Mauro Petrillo they don't get it

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Sounds Like Nonsense's avatar

Thanks for your substack Manu, it’s appreciated.

They pulling a trick here. People shed it out in poop for as long as it’s replicating in their gut which can be years or indefinitely.

It’s a virus that infects bacteria, it can infect faecal matter it can get inside bacteria and replicate in a way that is very similar like it does in a human cell.

SC2 has a dual mechanism it infects human cells but first but first infects bacterial cells in the microbiome.

https://rumble.com/v3d1pqy-wastewater.html

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manu's avatar

The virus would have to initially enter the body via the mucosal immune system. For precision, I suggest avoiding the combination of virus and vaccine components.

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Sounds Like Nonsense's avatar

EXOSOMES PARTY

Sweat glands express viral spike protein (Liu et al. (2020)

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-00229-y

High levels of spike protein enclosed within exosomes (Bansal et al.,2021).

https://www.jimmunol.org/content/early/2021/10/11/jimmunol.2100637

biologically active transfer of exosomes from one person to another during sexual contact (Welch et al., 2019).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7011712/

Exosomes are found in all bodily fluids and in exhaled breath (Sinha et al, 2013)

https://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(13)00524-1/fulltext

Inhaled exosomes, at least from plants, can be biologically active (Prado et al. 2022)

https://www.jimmunol.org/content/jimmunol/195/2/445.full.pdf

Breath exosomes: Proteomics and functional enrichment analysis in the development of methodology for future diagnostic devices.

https://openaccess.wgtn.ac.nz/articles/thesis/Breath_exosomes_Proteomics_and_functional_enrichment_analysis_in_the_development_of_methodology_for_future_diagnostic_devices_/16880512

Etc etc

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manu's avatar

You should look at the methods of the studies you posted. That’s exactly my point! For instance, the following considered Ab (antibody) or Abs (Antibodies) as proof:

“Detection of Abs to SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and nucleocapsid protein from human plasma samples: Development of Abs to SARS-CoV-2 spike Ag was determined using an ELISA developed in our laboratory. In brief, 1 μg/ml SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (Sino Biological) suspended in PBS was coated on an ELISA plate and incubated overnight at 4°C. Human plasma was added to these plates at 1:750 dilution. Detection was performed using secondary anti-human IgG-HRP (1:10,000) and developed using tetramethylbenzidine substrate and read at 450 nm. Plasma samples from individuals infected with SARS-CoV-2 (n = 10) and healthy individuals immunized with both doses of vaccine (n = 20) were used as positive controls. Healthy individuals with no history of SARS-CoV-2 infection and no vaccination for SARS-CoV-2 were used as negative controls (n = 20). Ab concentration was calculated using a standard curve from known concentrations of respective Abs (Thermo Fisher Scientific).”

https://journals.aai.org/jimmunol/article/207/10/2405/234284/Cutting-Edge-Circulating-Exosomes-with-COVID-Spike

Transmission electron microscopy: This method involves using transmission electron microscopy to visualize exosomes and detect spike protein Ags on their surface.

“Transmission electron microscopy of isolated exosomes for SARS-CoV-2 spike protein: Exosomes were labeled with immunogold and mouse anti–SARS-CoV-2 spike Ab, and coronavirus FIPV3-70 Ab (1:100) was added to the grids. Grids were washed and stained with uranyl acetate and viewed by transmission electron microscopy (JEOL USA, Peabody, MA)”

Now, look at this image: https://journals.aai.org/view-large/figure/8250243/ji2100637f1.tif

Do you clearly see a spike protein?

Furthermore, as I said in my substack, “SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (Sino Biological)” is a lab recombinant protein from Sino Biological.

https://www.sinobiological.com/category/protein

Again, they have been looking at antibodies or blurred visuals.

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Sounds Like Nonsense's avatar

What about this is this bullshit as well

DR CHRISTINA PARKS SHEDDING

BACTERIAL PLASMID (IN THE COVID JABS) EXPLAINED.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/kGc4gUS8XnXs/

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manu's avatar

As explained: Even if exosomes would be considered, once exosomes are taken up by cells, they can get degraded by lysosomes.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7717626/

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What about this it’s been years since I read it

DR FLEMMING SHEDDING TRANSMISSION

https://www.flemingmethod.com/copy-of-pdf-of-event-2021-presentation

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Design and Analysis of Shedding Studies for Virus or Bacteria-Based Gene Therapy and Oncolytic Products

https://www.flemingmethod.com/_files/ugd/659775_26d788ad58e244ee8236992fe6099051.pdf

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manu's avatar

Gain-of-function is pharmaceutical and military wishful thinking. Why would you use a vaccine and try to coerce everyone into taking it when GOF is readily available? Why risk exposure via GOF if vaccinations can target certain groups of people? How does this secrecy make any sense? Don’t forget, they acknowledged the vax doesn’t work.

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Sounds Like Nonsense's avatar

Also natural immunity is underestimated, only 50% of people who had the virus make antibodies to the N protein.

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It’s not a very good virus is it death rate not high for it.

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